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Taffer :godot: 🇨🇦

Almost ready to wipe my Tumbleweed laptop and start fresh again. Currently leaning towards Bazzite for more stability, easier/supported app installs, and official Framework support. Wondering about app freshness on Bazzite though.

I do need to look more into atomic distros vs rolling (EndeavourOS is also on the table), and how much RedHat controls the Fedora project.

Bazzite uses Homebrew for command-line apps? That seems extremely odd. Maybe this is normal on atomic Linux distros?

@Taffer from their official communication - Fedora isn't really "controlled" by RH. They provide developers and some server infrastructure, but the decision process is all up to Fedora Foundation. From what they say, RedHat has little to none influence on Fedora development (apart from things that would strictly impact RHEL, like legal/patent stuff).
I really encourage you to go for something stable with fresh apps - Mint was my go-to for years, and with Flatpak I don't mind LTS base

@leniwcowaty Mint’s great, but I didn’t love how slow updates were rolled out. Thanks for the Fedora perspective!

@leniwcowaty @Taffer "From what they say, RedHat has little to none influence on Fedora development (apart from things that would strictly impact RHEL, like legal/patent stuff)"

that's not what we intend to say, and it's not the case. RH does have substantial influence on Fedora development. almost everyone paid to work on Fedora is paid by RH. the maintainers of core Fedora components *mostly* work for RH (with some significant exceptions).

@adamw @Taffer Oh! So I must've misunderstood something.
Extremally sorry, and thanks for clarification!

@leniwcowaty @Taffer npnp, just didn't want anyone to have a wrong impression :)

@adamw @leniwcowaty My concerns are along the lines of “RedHate goes evil, stops funding Fedora”, or who-knows-what due to being an American company 🇨🇦.

Loving how there are Fedora folks active on Mastodon.

@Taffer All of the ublue OS's are extremely impressive, my laptop is on Aurora-DX and desktop & deck are both bazzite and they just keep getting faster & easier to use every month.

@Taffer I think it is because of helping folks move from macOS?

@Taffer we use brew for Universal Blue projects (Bazzite, Bluefin, Aurora, etc) because 1) helps people already familiar with it from MacOS. 2) traditional package managers that you're thinking about using (apt, dnf, etc) don't work in the atomic model that Fedora uses. It's a work in progress. But that brings me to 3) brew stores its packages in a format thats completely separate from traditional package managers... Almost like it's an overlay on what's already there... And that makes it perfect and useful for atomic setups!

@Taffer as for app freshness, you should be close to cutting edge, not quite arch but thanks for the atomic infrastructure we're able to pull in the latest things (like drivers) and test them extensively before shipping them out. Apps are completely separate from the distribution. So as soon as they're available from wherever you're getting them from (Flathub, brew, etc) you'll get em!