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Jacek Wesołowski

@linus One thing that makes me wonder is: are there really places in the world where typical work commute is 90 minutes? I live in a city of two million people and my worst ever was 75 minutes. 40 minutes is what I'd call typical.

@jzillw @linus People commute between cities/towns. Very common here in the Netherlands. Still, I agree that I have doubts about 90 minutes being normal. An hour? Absolutely. But I’d hope 90 minutes is on the small end of the bell curve.

@Brendanjones @jzillw @linus I guess you have to double it if you intend to go home. 🤭

@Brendanjones @jzillw @linus Mine was 90 minutes each way in Los Angeles.

My life changed when that office closed!

@Jfrites @jzillw @linus Wowsers, alright. I was doing 50 mins - 1hr each way last year from Utrecht to Amsterdam, but it was bike > train > bike. It’s way more relaxed than driving an hour. Also, my company didn’t care when I came in so I only did it as much as I wanted, which was generally 3 days a week because I like seeing other humans and I liked my colleagues. I totally get why you want wfh in place of 90 min commutes, 5 days a week.

@Brendanjones @Jfrites @linus Confession: I live in Warsaw, but I work in Hamburg. Eight hours by train (with a very convenient transfer in Berlin). :-) Remote work is a bit of a miracle. Still, I do miss my team, they're nice.

@Brendanjones @jzillw @linus I suspect North America is where the really bad commutes are. Partially due to distances and partially due to poor urban planning leading to congestion.

I don't hear a lot about EU commuting but Boston, Toronto, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Washington DC, etc. I've heard horror stories

@jzillw @linus I have colleagues who commute 90 to 120 min each way. Los Angeles.

@jzillw @linus Yes. Bay Area. There are many that would commute 2 plus hrs to work one way. I was one of them.

Would have loved to live closer but home prices were outrageous.

@jzillw @linus Greater Toronto Area, primarily due to congestion.

105 minutes by train from my home city to downtown Toronto or 90 - 180 minutes by car.

Train is slow due to being a bit indirect and having a top speed of only 150km/h. Car commute is bad due to ALL the traffic to/from/through Toronto being routed through a single highway.

@beeoproblem @linus Sounds a lot like some people who work here in Warsaw but live in Łódź (a city of some 650k people, about 100km from here). Most likely similar commute times. I guess I'm lucky to be a Warsaw native, never had to live further than a 10 minutes' walk from a metro station.

I have friends who live on one side of Metro Detroit and work on the other side and commuite one way can often reach 90 minutes in about 60 miles, and Detroit traffic isn't really that bad. Chicago is far worse, and I'd hate to see cities whose population grew much quicker than its infrastructure like Austin over the past 10 years.

@jzillw

Mine is 90 minutes by car -80km each way. Longer on bad days.

By public transport, it is two buses and a train ot two
Used to take 2 hours to get to work. Often the bus home would just miss the train, so sit and wait half a hour for the next one.

@linus

@jzillw @linus 45 min in the morning, 45 min in the evening was my regular commute in the Seattle area, much worse when there was a collision. And that was 14 years ago before it got bad. I wasn't working in an office when it got bad, but I did spent 45 minutes just getting to the freeway from Mercer (near Amazon HQ) anytime I went to that part of town on a weekday. There stopped being a rush "hour" and it was more like all day. (I moved away from the area in large part due to that.)