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Feel like this should be required reading for half of the Mozilla posts I'm seeing.

youtube.com/watch?v=dDpKx-wvD_

Thanks for doing the leg work @veggero

@mdiluz @veggero not really surprising to see Linux folks going ape over it, the same people who go ape over a CoC that amounts to "don't be a dickhead"

@gamingonlinux @mdiluz @veggero

Believe it is also a symptom of wanting to find “good” vs “bad” guys or generally binaries. It becomes so easily to validate those thoughts and people become so quickly dramatic.

We are moving too fast for our own good.

@jalict @gamingonlinux @veggero yeah it's definitely this to a big extent. The left and/or liberal values almost always in-fight because we're perfectionists.

@mdiluz @veggero Ehh, I think this is a generous interpretation. "De-identified" data is frequently trivially identifiable by combining multiple pieces of information. IP addresses are identifying. Services could mean the service products that Mozilla, or it could just mean the generic service that Mozilla provides.

I think this is a slow slide towards Firefox selling data like anyone else, and while maybe you don't need to jump ship right this moment it's time to start looking at alternatives.

@tom_schultz @veggero Yup, that's a fair approach to this! A slippery slope argument is still a useful tool in some contexts and can be an indicator of when to plan for change.