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#holocaust

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Erik van Straten

They're not Jews. Which is the reason that the *current* Auschwitz maintainers don't bother to look up their non-captivity pictures (which they do for Jewish Holocaust victims).

Neither do the *current* Auschwitz maintainers tell the story of these two Dutch men and they don't correct their database.

Prisoner number 23610 (victims.auschwitz.org/victims/) was known as "Sef Janssen". His birth name was "Jozef Antoon Hubert Janssen" (see openarchieven.nl/rhl:8b0c6e62-). His release is not even mentioned.

Prisoner number 23611 (victims.auschwitz.org/victims/) was not "Johann Giesen" but "Jan Giesen". His birth name was "Jan Pieter Antonius Giesen" (see archief.venlo.nl/collecties/bu). His release is not even mentioned.

Their story -in Dutch- can be found in (both are http links) roermondsepoort.nl/terug%20uit and roermondsepoort.nl/r-55-jansse (archives, using https links, in resp. web.archive.org/web/2024022410 and web.archive.org/web/2022100700).

Note: according to the second link, Sef Janssen was born on 21-06-1914 (Blerick), but that may be a typo in that article.

Sef Janssen and Jan Giesen are also mentioned in this Dutch thesis (PDF): pure.uva.nl/ws/files/145681402.

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Screenshot from https://victims.auschwitz.org/victims/104433 Janssen Josef Date of Birth : 21-07-1914 Place of Birth : Blerick Profession carpenter Fate Prisoner Number 23610 [Photo: in-captivity three pane picture]
Screenshot from https://victims.auschwitz.org/victims/77907 Giesen Johann Date of Birth : 03-09-1920 Place of Birth : Tegelen Profession tradesman Fate Prisoner Number 23611 [Photo: in-captivity three pane picture]
#NeverAgainJewsOnly#ConcentrationCampGaza#NotInMyName
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MikeDunnAuthor

Today in Labor History May 12, 1940: Edgar Lion, a 20-year-old Austrian Jewish student at the University of Edinburgh, was arrested by British police and shipped off to the Isle of Man with thousands of other Jewish detainees. The British government locked them all up in hotels surrounded by barbed wire. He was later deported to Canada, where he was interned with 2,300 other Jewish refugees in camps alongside German Nazis and forced to perform brutal physical labor for virtually no pay. “There were real Nazis interned with us! They were Nazis who happened to be caught by the war in Great Britain. They were bragging, and they kept telling us, ‘wait till Hitler wins the war, we’ll cut all your throats!’”

As appalling as the Trump administration is, with its arrests, deportations, and use of brutal concentration camps for innocent immigrants, as well as many legal residents and citizens, it is a misrepresentation of history to suggest that this sort of behavior is similar only to that of the Nazis, and is somehow extraordinary for modern democracies like the U.S., Britain and Canada. Concentration Camps, with forced labor, brutal living conditions, and sometimes torture and violence against inmates were operated by numerous so-called democratic Western nations throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, and even today. Australia used them during both World Wars, and currently runs some for refugees on Nauru and Manus Islands. During both World Wars, Canada imprisoned 8,579 male "aliens of enemy nationality" in concentration camps with forced labor, including thousands of Jews. They also interned Japanese residents. Denmark, Sweden and Finland also had concentration camps. French concentration camps, along with the torture and starvation inflicted on their inmates, and the casualties from its war of conquest in Algeria, resulted in up to 1 million deaths. And then there were thousands of Jews who were imprisoned in concentration camps under the Vichy government, most ultimately deported to Germany, where they were executed. Even Germany’s legacy of concentration camps predates Hitler, with deadly camps utilized during the Herero and Namaqua genocide they committed in Africa (1904-1908). In addition to their internment of Jews during World War II, Britain also ran offshore and land-based gulags in Ireland in the 1920s, which housed over 500 men, under brutal conditions, without charge or trial. They also ran concentration camps on the Isle of Man during both world wars.

The U.S., in particular, has a long, sordid history of using concentration camps that precede the ones they used during World War II to imprison Japanese-Americans. The first document U.S. concentration camps used for a specific ethnic group occurred in 1838, when President Van Buren imprisoned Cherokee in camps at Ross's Landing (Chattanooga, Tennessee), Fort Payne, Alabama, and Fort Cass (Charleston, Tennessee). Many died in these camps from disease and hunger. In 1862, Minnesota executed 38 Dakota warriors in the largest single-day mass execution in U.S. history. President Lincoln pardoned another 361, but placed them in a concentration camp. And in the following winter, another 1600 Dakota men, women and children were forced into other concentration camps. Up to 300 died from disease in these camps. Thousands of other indigenous people were forced into U.S. concentration camps throughout the 1800s and early 1900s. The U.S. also operated brutal concentration camps for prisoners and civilians during its war on the Philippines in 1901. During the 1950s-1960s, the U.S. maintained concentration camps for political dissidents, primarily communists, but officially never used them. More recently, there are the examples of Abu Ghraib, in Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Under Reagan, there were plans to imprison thousands of Central American Solidarity activists in concentration camps. And today, Trump continues to talk about sending “homegrowns” to offshore gulags in El Salvador, Guantanamo Bay, and Africa.

Edgar Lion, age 98, in red, with gray hair and glasses, at a podium, with the quote: "Wait till Hitler wins the war, we will cut out all your throats."
#workingclass#LaborHistory#fascism
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Erik van Straten

🧵2/2 Arie Elshout (in volkskrant.nl/columns-van-de-d van 11 mei 2025) kakelt Avner Shalev na die op 2 mei 2008 schreef (Haaretz, zonder paywall in yadvashem.org/about/former-cha):
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Recently, yet another Hamas spokesperson compared the situation in Gaza to events during the Holocaust.
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If everything is genocide, nothing is genocide.
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Avner Shalev nu: auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw en lees vooral de "Resolution" onderaan auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw.

de Volkskrant · Als alles een holocaust wordt, is straks niks meer een holocaust
#FrancescaAlbaneseIsRight#Gaza#GazaGenocide
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324.cat

█ 80 anys de l'alliberament de Mauthausen, camp de concentració on van morir centenars de catalans ▓▒░ La commemoració coincideix amb la investigació de la Fiscalia de la Memòria per esclarir les responsabilitats del règim franquista i els crims nazis
ccma.cat/324/80-anys-de-lallib

Felip VI i la reina Letícia al camp de concentració de Mauthausen (EFE/EPA/Max Slovencik)
Monument homenatge als republicans espanyols que van morir a Mauthausen (Reuters/Lisa Leutner)
10.000 espanyols i catalans que van ser capturats i empresonats als camps d'extermini nazis, la gran majoria a Mauthausen i Gusen (EFE/EPA/Max Slovencik)
Monument commemoratiu de l'alliberament del camp de concentració KZ Mauthausen (Reuters/Lisa Leutner)
#segonaguerramundial#memoriahistorica#holocaust
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Norbert_R 🧣🐘🦣

Gereon Asmuth @gereonas über die Re­ak­ti­o­nen zum Tod Margot Fried­län­ders

#Heute würde sie #abgewiesen

Margot #Friedländer ist tot. Die #Holocaust-Überlebende und unermüdliche Mahnerin an die Menschlichkeit ist am Freitag im Alter von 103 Jahren gestorben. Es gab unzählige Reaktionen aus fast allen Bereichen von Politik und Kultur auf diese Nachricht
taz.de/!6087456

Blumen neben den Stolpersteinen für Friedländer und ihre Familie
TAZ Verlags- und Vertriebs GmbH · Trauerbekundungen und Realpolitik: Margot Friedländer würde abgewiesenDie Reaktionen auf den Tod der Holocaust-Überlebenden zeugen vom Verlangen nach Humanität. Ausgerechnet bei der Bundesregierung sind sie wohlfeil.
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Stefan Müller :verified:

„In einem mittlerweile gelöschten Post auf X vom 27. Februar, der nun wieder von Nut­zer*in­nen ausgegraben wurde, schrieb #Barashi über die Menschen in #Gaza: „Sie verdienen den Tod! Männer, Frauen und Kinder – egal wie, wir müssen einfach einen #Holocaust an ihnen ausüben.“ Durchgesetzt werden soll dieser nach Wunsch Barashis mit den Methoden Nazideutschlands: „Gaskammern. Zugwaggons und andere grausame Formen des Todes für diese Nazis.“ Kinder und Eltern, Frauen und Mädchen, sie alle verdienten nach Ansicht des TV-Produzenten einen grausamen und harten Tod.“

Die deutschen, die europäischen #Juden haben sich (fast) nicht gewehrt. Sie sind ins Gas gegangen und millionenfach ermordet worden. Die Lehre, die sie daraus gezogen haben, war, dass sie kämpfen müssen, sich verteidigen müssen. #Israel hat jetzt eine moderne Armee mit dreijähriger Wehrpflicht für Männer und Frauen.

Einige scheinen aber die falschen Lehren gezogen zu haben, nennen ihre Gegner #Nazis und wollen sie mit Nazi-Methoden bekämpfen.

taz.de/!6083367

Blick auf zerstörte Gebäude
TAZ Verlags- und Vertriebs GmbH · Rechte Medien in Israel: TV-Produzent will „Holocaust“ an PalästinensernElad Barashi arbeitet für den Netanjahu-nahen israelischen Sender Channel 14. Auf X forderte er die Vernichtung der Menschen in Gaza mit Nazimethoden.
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Sie de los Cerros

I'm asking to myself when some people will see this genocide clearly and the mentality behind it. Just see

Israel TV producer Elad Barashi post on X: "Good morning, let there be a Shoa (#Holocaust) in Gaza."

And also: "I can't understand the people here in the State of #Israel who don't want to fill #Gaza with gas showers... or train cars... and finish this story! Let there be a Holocaust in Gaza."

"Who is the fool who says there are ‘innocents’ in Gaza? (...)" #nazi

newarab.com/news/israel-tv-pro

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Erik van Straten

"#Auschwitz warns us of where ideologies of hatred can lead to."

Exactly.

From the bottom of auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw:

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RESOLUTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL AUSCHWITZ COUNCIL ON THE TRAGIC EVENTS IN ISRAEL, APPROVED BY CIRCULATION ON 18 NOVEMBER 2023

The International Auschwitz Council by the Prime Minister of the Republic of Poland acknowledges with the deepest pain and sorrow the suffering of innocent Victims – tortured, raped, taken hostage, and murdered by Hamas terrorists.

We wish to express our unwavering solidarity with Israelis and Jews worldwide.

Threatened in its existence, the State of Israel has the right to self-defense in accordance with international law and the principles of humanitarianism. The existence of a free, sovereign, and democratic Jewish State is one of the pillars of world peace.

The unimaginable hatred and violence perpetrated by terrorists only results in extensive and more widespread suffering – affecting also the civilian population of Gaza, whom Hamas exploits as human shields.

An essential first step to halt the horrifying spiral of death and war is the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, a demand we make with all our might.
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One of the board members is a former high-ranked member of the Israeli Destruction forces (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw).

They don't care about holocaust victims in their automated spam stream, which is only intended to make people feel sorry for Zionist Jews who live NOW.

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Screenshot from the bottom of https://www.auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschwitz-council/ See the toot for the text. In addition, at the bottom a "Donate" button is visible.
#NeverAgainJewsOnly#ConcentrationCampGaza#NotInMyName
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dadamsda

#Zivilgesellschaft

Übrigens, vorgestern haben sich ca. 4.000 Antifaschisten dem sogenannten Trauermarsch von #Rechtsextremisten in #Demmin entgegengestellt

"Jedes Jahr versammeln sich am 8. Mai Rechtsextreme in der Kleinstadt, vorgeblich um des Massensuizids zu gedenken, der sich vor über 80 Jahren kurz vor Kriegsende ereignete"

ndr.de/nachrichten/mecklenburg

www.ndr.deSitzblockaden und ein quergestellter Bus: Breiter Protest gegen Aufmarsch RechtsextremerMehrere Tausend Menschen haben am Donnerstagabend in Demmin gegen den jährlichen Aufmarsch der rechtsextremen Partei "Die Heimat" demonstriert. Die Organisatoren sprachen von 4.000 Gegen-Demonstranten, die Polizei sprach von 2.000 Teilnehmenden.
#MargotFriedländer#Rechtsextremismus#Nationalsozialismus
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Mediathekperlen

Ich bin! Margot Friedländer (2023)

15 Monate versteckt sich Margot Friedländer in Berlin vor der Gestapo – eine junge Frau, die ums Überleben kämpft. Nach der Deportation ihrer Familie bleibt sie allein zurück, mit der eindringlichen Botschaft ihrer Mutter: „Versuche, dein Leben zu machen.“ Das Dokudrama erzählt die beeindruckende Geschichte der Holocaust-Überlebenden Margot Friedländer, die 2023 ihren 102. Geburtstag feiert. Autor:innen Hannah & Raymond Ley haben ihre Erinnerungen filmisch festgehalten, mit Julia Anna Grob in der Hauptrolle. Ausgezeichnet mit dem Deutschen Fernsehpreis 2024 (Bester Fernsehfilm) & dem Robert-Geisendörfer-Preis.

NexxtPressIch bin! Margot Friedländer (2023)15 Monate versteckt sich Margot Friedländer in Berlin vor der Gestapo – eine junge Frau, die ums Überleben kämpft. Nach der Deportation ihrer Familie bleibt sie allein zurück…
#niewiederistjetzt#annikaolbrich#axelprahl
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