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@adamdegrandis welcome, Adam :)

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@adamdegrandis welcome, Adam :)

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@PossiblyAxolotl Shouldn’t that be Db? Or B##?

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@PossiblyAxolotl Shouldn’t that be Db? Or B##?

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@cgseattle That's a neat idea! Along similar lines I've always felt it'd be so cool if books came with their own soundtracks.

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@cgseattle That's a neat idea! Along similar lines I've always felt it'd be so cool if books came with their own soundtracks.

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Here's a little Deck the Halls arrangement I threw together for this Christmas. And yes, the art is AI generated. :)

https://soundcloud.com/user-885845842/deck-the-halls

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Here's a little Deck the Halls arrangement I threw together for this Christmas. And yes, the art is AI generated. :)

https://soundcloud.com/user-885845842/deck-the-halls

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo Which is why I referred to a value system, as opposed to a legal framework.

There is nothing illegal about investing in oil companies either, and yet activism can trigger divestment. You can slow things down without making them illegal.

One cannot outlaw AI generated art across the globe, but it is imaginable Ubisofts and EAs of the world, with enough pressure from the outside, would pledge not to use AI other than to automate cumbersome tasks.

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo Which is why I referred to a value system, as opposed to a legal framework.

There is nothing illegal about investing in oil companies either, and yet activism can trigger divestment. You can slow things down without making them illegal.

One cannot outlaw AI generated art across the globe, but it is imaginable Ubisofts and EAs of the world, with enough pressure from the outside, would pledge not to use AI other than to automate cumbersome tasks.

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@Flyworld This would go well with screen distortion :)

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@Flyworld This would go well with screen distortion :)

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo
"And equally, we know we can't functionally stop it."

Is that true? And if yes, can it at least not be made more fair for the people whose art is used to train the AI models?

I can copy paste a line from Dickens into my work, maybe change it up a bit so it's hard to detect, but that doesn't mean plagiarism should not be a thing.

Not saying AI = plagiarism, but that we can establish a value system where it's wrong to benefit from someone else's art without permission.

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo
"And equally, we know we can't functionally stop it."

Is that true? And if yes, can it at least not be made more fair for the people whose art is used to train the AI models?

I can copy paste a line from Dickens into my work, maybe change it up a bit so it's hard to detect, but that doesn't mean plagiarism should not be a thing.

Not saying AI = plagiarism, but that we can establish a value system where it's wrong to benefit from someone else's art without permission.

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo I personally have mixed feelings about it, as someone who stands to gain from AI art content generation. It's expensive to hire an artist, let alone a team of them. But the reason I can't field an art team is that the economics of game development is stacked against the developer, and it favors the publishers and distribution platforms instead. While AI art may look like it might help me in the short run, ultimately it won't be the devs who profit most from it

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo I personally have mixed feelings about it, as someone who stands to gain from AI art content generation. It's expensive to hire an artist, let alone a team of them. But the reason I can't field an art team is that the economics of game development is stacked against the developer, and it favors the publishers and distribution platforms instead. While AI art may look like it might help me in the short run, ultimately it won't be the devs who profit most from it

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo I think the arguments about whether the generated art contains the training material are kinda missing the broader picture. The more important question is how this technology will affect the economics of creative projects and the livelihoods of those involved. I think artists are right to raise the alarm bell now, as the field is advancing very rapidly and it may be too late to do anything about it after the fact.

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo I think the arguments about whether the generated art contains the training material are kinda missing the broader picture. The more important question is how this technology will affect the economics of creative projects and the livelihoods of those involved. I think artists are right to raise the alarm bell now, as the field is advancing very rapidly and it may be too late to do anything about it after the fact.

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo Not sure how to see the rest of this thread, but this bit caught my attention. It does not contain the asset, for a narrow definition of 'to contain'. However if one considers procedural generation to be just another compression algorithm, and for a given input, the "uncompressed" output is deterministic, then yes, it does contain the assets.

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@ZoeInBinary @ninjadodo Not sure how to see the rest of this thread, but this bit caught my attention. It does not contain the asset, for a narrow definition of 'to contain'. However if one considers procedural generation to be just another compression algorithm, and for a given input, the "uncompressed" output is deterministic, then yes, it does contain the assets.

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@ZoeInBinary The formless blob of toxic silica sludge oozed across the smooth floor, coming to rest between two obsidian obelisks. A ball of energy crackled and bounced between their plastisteel plated tips. The blob produced an alien groan, the sound of which started to slowly take form, until it finally said: "Hi, I'm Steve! Let me pull up your account details. How may I help you today?"

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@ZoeInBinary The formless blob of toxic silica sludge oozed across the smooth floor, coming to rest between two obsidian obelisks. A ball of energy crackled and bounced between their plastisteel plated tips. The blob produced an alien groan, the sound of which started to slowly take form, until it finally said: "Hi, I'm Steve! Let me pull up your account details. How may I help you today?"

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@ZoeInBinary Who's to say ChatGPT is not actually an interdimensional Mechanical Turk with countless sentient beings trapped in a gig economy.

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@ZoeInBinary Who's to say ChatGPT is not actually an interdimensional Mechanical Turk with countless sentient beings trapped in a gig economy.

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@nephewtom Thanks, it's not a coincidence. Holst uses the same scale in Neptune: which is basically two augmented triads one semitone apart. Wanted to experiment with it to have a better sense of augmented chords.

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@nephewtom Thanks, it's not a coincidence. Holst uses the same scale in Neptune: which is basically two augmented triads one semitone apart. Wanted to experiment with it to have a better sense of augmented chords.

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@nephewtom It's the AI generated cover art for one of my tracks: https://soundcloud.com/user-885845842/an-audience-with-fate

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@nephewtom It's the AI generated cover art for one of my tracks: https://soundcloud.com/user-885845842/an-audience-with-fate

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@nephewtom Very cool. I've been learning music composition for the last couple years. Such a rewarding hobby. Getting better at piano is also on my bucket list.

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@nephewtom Very cool. I've been learning music composition for the last couple years. Such a rewarding hobby. Getting better at piano is also on my bucket list.

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@nephewtom Indeed. Like the profile pic btw. Are you a percussionist?

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@nephewtom Indeed. Like the profile pic btw. Are you a percussionist?

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@ZoeInBinary Imagine a future where a social network operates across parallel universes, putting you in the same server as people with your exact set of eclectic interests.

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@ZoeInBinary Imagine a future where a social network operates across parallel universes, putting you in the same server as people with your exact set of eclectic interests.

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@soulsource Thank you, Andreas. Although I wasn't that great at using twitter either, so I don't have the problem of 'how do I do this thing I used to do on twitter'

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@soulsource Thank you, Andreas. Although I wasn't that great at using twitter either, so I don't have the problem of 'how do I do this thing I used to do on twitter'

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So uhh.. first post. Empty timeline. What do I do here? :D

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So uhh.. first post. Empty timeline. What do I do here? :D