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the logi ergo k860 looks like a neat keyboard (slowly researching eventual replacements for my MS Sculpt), but I wish they had a TLK version, I can't deal with full-key anymore, too uncomfortable.
@djlink I wouldn't even buy a notebook without a numpad 
... But I do allot of 3D stuff and navigation in software for that often presumes a numpad exist.
@feyter makes sense, for me it’s just useless so it gets in the way.
@djlink this keyboard rocks. I got one as a birthday present last year and I'm still very happy with it. 
@djlink If you like the split layout you should probably look into something truly split like the Keychron Q11, Kinesis Edge or similar, they have more options
@sinbad the edge does look nice, although we're probably paying premium for that RGB xD
@djlink TBF it's hard to find a good keyboard that doesn't have RGB these days 
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The Kinesis Freestyle Pro is like the Edge but without the RGB! It seems the Freestyle 2 that I've used for years is also still available. It lacks the Pro's macro/remapping functionality but is similar unlit.
I was worried the RGB model would replace everything, but hopefully they keep selling them all!
@idbrii @sinbad @djlink can also heartily recommend the ergodox; I’ve been using the ergodox-ez for years, and it has a no-led option. https://ergodox-ez.com
I recently discovered the key switches are easily swappable, which I’ve found handy for trying different configurations.
@bbbscarter @idbrii @sinbad I've seen these recommended a couple times, but I need my function keys row xD
@djlink @idbrii @sinbad fair. For my personal use I rarely use function keys, and when I do I hold a combo key with thumb/pinky and press the number keys. But indeed, that might not be enough if you use function keys a lot.
The lovely thing is how configurable it is. You can set it so that you have a toggle key that makes the number keys always function keys, until you toggle it off again; or so that holding down a number key triggers a function key; etc.
@bbbscarter @djlink @idbrii I like the idea of these sorts of things but my brain is already so chock full of key combos if I have to remember any more I’ll start forgetting how to do multi-caret editing or something 
@djlink How is it failing? Mine started to miss presses on a few letters but that is probably something in the membranes. I saw a guy that basically made his Sculpt wired and customizable.. I can try to find a link if you're up for it
@celsosantos yeah mine is starting to fail, it's 9y old at this point, some keys aren't what they used to, but it's starting to impact general workflow
@djlink Preordered this one over half a year ago. Supposed to finally ship soon. Hope it’s decent…. https://matias.store/collections/all/FK413
@jonikorpi ohh nice, will wait for them to stock the EU store, thanks for the tip
@djlink Well fuck.
> We regret to inform you that your Matias order is again delayed.
The reason is that there are still software problems for these new models , so the supplier needs more time to deliver them to us. The expected delivery time will most likely be in May 2025.
@jonikorpi ah damn :(
@djlink after weeks of research on split keyboards I ended up ordering the Keychron Q11 (not arrived yet). It's a bit more expensive, but it should last long given the build quality and repairability. And except for the double spacebar, it's a normal 75% layout which should require minimum effort to adapt.
@rogeriopvl that one looks nice, let me know what you think of it once you get it.