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Rune Skovbo Johansen

I haven't followed Unity closely, but I understood many employees were excited to show the new direction of Unity 7 at Unite 2024 and it was generally well received?

But this has since been jeopardized because the new CEO doesn't want breaking changes?

AMA thread on Twitter with Thomas Petersen who worked at Unity until recently:
x.com/QAThomasNoUnity/status/1

Obviously people still working there might have more info, but can't necessarily say much.

Thomas Petersen: Unity has been on a spiral since about 2020. The problem is that the promise of backwards compatibility and a rickety foundation makes it insanely expensive to create anything in Unity. You have to fortify your work with a mountain of tests, which are additional dependencies. Jem Cope: Do you have some idea of how you wish they'd solve this problem? Thomas Petersen: We were doing it with unity 7. New content pipeline, the very root of what unity is and the results were shown at unite. Async loading, no more progress bars, fully integrated ECS (3 lines of code, no joke!). Unbelievable gains for developers.
SnowOrShine: When you say "were" Are Unity still planning to follow through on all/most of the features in the Unite keynote presentation from a month or so ago? (Because it looked like the changes would fix a lot of issues I currently have with the engine, nested prefabs, split render pipelines, entities/gameobjects being too separate etc) Thomas Petersen: No idea. I was terminated without given a reason the day after a strategy kickoff where the CEO said he doesn't believe in breaking change unity 7. I said we have to do that to make these things real. Out I went.
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The Seven Voyages Of Steve

@runevision They're in a tough spot. There's lots of things in Unity that really need to be better, but they have a vast number of customers who just need it to work. They tried squaring that with components which had their own update cadence (2019+ ish), but IME that just fragmented the system even worse in terms of reliability, compatibility and documentation, it's one of the main things that led me to stop using it. Improving something fundamental without breaking it is not easy

Rune Skovbo Johansen

@sinbad Right. But they had designed Unity 6 to last for a loooong time (a decade) exactly so that there was room to do breaking changes in Unity 7 without screwing over customers?

I agree with Thomas (based on my own experience working at Unity for 13 years) that there's so much cruft that it's hard to get anything done now and that nothing except breaking changes can fundamentally solve that.

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The Seven Voyages Of Steve

@runevision Having a proper LTS version is good from a technical perspective, but I guess from a management perspective that's less attractive, because you're doing 2x (or at least some x) the work for the same number of licensees, since people are still going to expect that 6 is actively maintained?

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Rune Skovbo Johansen

@sinbad Yeah but that's the short term perspective only.

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The Seven Voyages Of Steve

@runevision CEOs these days only have a short term perspective

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