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Maybe a more productive way of thinking about it is - what would you actually need to add to arch to make it recommendable by default, given that post-install it's basically the only distro which actually works.

@dotstdy IMHO What's holding Linux on the desktop back in general is: it's full of choices nobody wants to make...

It's starts with the boot loader, then the init stack, then the display server, then the window manager, then the desktop manager, then the sound stack, then the package manager, ...

It's like C++: It can be powerful, but at the same time it's full of things that don't go well together and require a cognitive load that's heavy and that nobody should have to deal with...

@gpakosz @dotstdy +1 - Linux desperately wants me to care about things I absolutely do not. Windows may be annoying sometimes but I don’t have to spend much time thinking about it, or fussing with it, which ultimately is more useful to me (in a monkeys paw sort of way)

@sinbad @gpakosz right I mean ultimately there's just a lot of small things, I don't really have any trouble navigating that stuff so the amount of energy I spend on my Linux machines is significantly less than the amount I spend on my often a pita windows work machine. But if you don't have the broad knowledge it's hard to get yourself into that happy place. I think it's pretty much there in general, but it needs somebody to constantly work on filling the gaps. That used to be Ubuntu.

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@dotstdy @gpakosz oh it’s definitely small things. I think Linux works best for people who have either extremely normal workflows, or are happy to spend lots of time noodling with the details. Sadly I’m in neither camp, I have just enough edge cases for it to never quite work optimally out of the box, but not enough time or inclination to tinker enough to work around those things. I used to like OS X as a middle ground but Apple ruined that so Windows is now the least friction (if far from zero)