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Delta ChatIn 2014 <a href="https://ioc.exchange/@matthew_d_green" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@matthew_d_green</a> wrote "What's the matter with PGP?" <a href="https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/</a>We'd like to humbly report completion of its main suggestions. Better late than never! :)- Key management is automatic through <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/securejoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#securejoin</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#autocrypt</a> protos- <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays form an end-to-end encrypted email enclave interoperable with any e-mail address using proper end-to-end encryption. - RFC 9580 "cryptorefresh" is rolled out in current releases and will be activated soon. One to go? ;)

𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗲Так что, кубинцы(?) сделали свой <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ArcaneChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ArcaneChat</a> ( лёгкий аналог <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> ), что с нового релиза поддержка нешифрованных сообщений убрана? Или я неправильно понял Гуглоперевод? В уме, правда, этот пазл как-то не очень складывается из моих поверхностных познаний, как работает этот их <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autocrypt</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/lang_ru" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#lang_ru</a> <a href="https://lor.sh/@ru" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ru</a> <a href="https://3zi.ru/@Russia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Russia</a>

Rasheed Ahmed<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@lns" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lns</a> Should but they never will, with good reason. They don't really need to, for email encryption at least there's <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> that non-technical people have a better chance of learning. Yes, it only uses a subset of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PGP</a> called <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autocrypt</a>, but if you really want to use PGP, there are much better tools than <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GPG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GPG</a> like: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Thunderbird</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mailvelope" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mailvelope</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kleopatra" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kleopatra</a>. I know some of these are front-ends for GPG.

treefit<a href="https://urusai.social/@qgustavor" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@qgustavor</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@adbenitez" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@adbenitez</a> you can add as many profiles/accounts as you like, some of them can be classic email accounts that can email everyone that uses email, even if they don't support encryption. If they have a client with <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#autocrypt</a> support (or deltachat), then the conversation is encrypted as soon as they answer you (outgoing messages contain your pubkey, there is no key server).Go to the profile switcher -> Add Profile -> new profile -> use different server -> classical email login

Delta Chat<a href="https://framapiaf.org/@sardon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sardon</a> not that we know off. As far as we know thunderbirds current extension model does not allow even an <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#autocrypt</a> compliant plugin let alone all the rest that delta offers. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/enigmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#enigmail</a> used to offer full autocrypt support but when thunderbird changed the plugin model and integrated openpgp into thunderbird they went back to the old idea of "users have to consciously manage their encryption keys" ... An unfortunate old tradition. We aim for modern usable security like signal delivers.

mray<a href="https://mastodon.social/@ryanleesipes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ryanleesipes</a> still <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#autocrypt</a> support 🙃

DelegateVoidPeople seem to have forgotten (or simply weren't around at the time) that <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#decentralized</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/e2ee" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#e2ee</a> has been available to the public since the early 90's. It's just that it was too complicated to use for most people. That's where <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#autocrypt</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/delta" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#delta</a>.chat come in. You can build all the <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#decentralized</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/distributed" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#distributed</a> solutions you want, unless an entity cannot (economically) afford to block it, it will be blocked, no matter what you believe. So stick with <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#email</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#smtp</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#imap</a> and build on that.

Russ Sharek<a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@delta</a> Question for you!Do you have any documentation, guides, or tips on how to get <a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/neomutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#neomutt</a>'s <a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#autocrypt</a> working with a chatmail server?I've gotten as far as importing my keys so I can read messages from the mail server on both clients, but I can't figure out how to extract the keys from a message so I can add them and send successfully from mutt.What am I missing?

mray<a href="https://mastodon.social/@ryanleesipes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ryanleesipes</a> In the talk you offer help for integrating privacy respecting standards (not the proton mail approach)I'm no expert - but <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#autocrypt</a> and therefore <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> support would be awesome - what is holding you back?<a href="https://autocrypt.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://autocrypt.org/</a>

Delta ChatAn enjoyable and fruitful <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenPGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenPGP</a> email 2024 summit closing up .... with many standardization efforts roughly agreed between several players: maximizing metadata protection (IETF header protection effort), ecosystem transition V4->V6 and PQ-keys (IETF replacement keys), <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#autocrypt</a> level 2 possibly involving integration of "in-band" with "out of band" key distribution like WKD/HKP which themselves are bound for integration. Believe it or not .... the eco system is moving ;)

Islamic Audiobooks Central<a href="https://social.growyourown.services/@homegrown" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@homegrown</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@delta</a> Apparently, you can have encrypted chats with users using other email clients that support the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autocrypt</a> standard like <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@k9mail" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@k9mail</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Snappymail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Snappymail</a> webmail. Tried with K-9 a while back and it worked great.

Rasheed AhmedSnappyMail, the default webmail app in <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@nextcloud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nextcloud</a>, now supports <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autocrypt</a>. <a href="https://github.com/the-djmaze/snappymail/releases" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/the-djmaze/snappymail/releases</a><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@delta</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@k9mail" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@k9mail</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SnappyMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SnappyMail</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rainloop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rainloop</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#nextcloud</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/pgp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pgp</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/openpgp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#openpgp</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#encryption</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#email</a>

BuZZ-dEE ☮️ 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 🇩🇪<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Frieren" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Frieren</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@protonmail" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@protonmail</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Tutanota</a> I think it is important that <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Tutanota</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@protonmail" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@protonmail</a> are working together to build an <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#encryption</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/standard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#standard</a> for <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Email</a>For now <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Tutanota" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tutanota</a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ProtonMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ProtonMail</a> are <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/walledgardens" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#walledgardens</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autocrypt</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GPG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GPG</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Security</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/walledgarden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#walledgarden</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/198" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/198</a> <a href="https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/issues/120" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/issues/120</a> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/88gqiw/any_plans_to_support_autocrypt/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/88gqiw/any_plans_to_support_autocrypt/</a>

BuZZ-dEE ☮️ 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 🇩🇪<a href="https://mstdn.social/@covert_czar" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@covert_czar</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Tutanota</a> No, but I don't use <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/tutanota" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tutanota</a> because you can't send encrypted <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#email</a> to users from other <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/eMailProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#eMailProvider</a> <a href="https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/198" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/198</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autocrypt</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GPG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GPG</a>

adb<a href="https://floss.social/@be" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@be</a> literally my experience with matrix, never happens with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autocrypt</a>

Mynacol<a href="https://mastodon.social/@qbi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@qbi</a> Sich mit <a href="https://ipv6.social/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PGP</a> rumzuärgern war mir zu lästig. Habe in einem letzten Versuch meine Clients auf <a href="https://ipv6.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Autocrypt</a> konfiguriert, damit sehe ich die Chance einer automatischen, opportunistischen e2ee bei Mail. Nur fehlen noch die Rezipienten. (Entwicklung in Thunderbird geht voran) <a href="https://autocrypt.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://autocrypt.org/</a>Daneben betreibe ich einen eigenen Mailserver mit erzwungener <a href="https://ipv6.social/tags/TLS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TLS</a> Verschlüsselung. Damit habe ich auf meiner Seite keine Drittparteien, die meine Mails lesen können.

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