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Lesley Lai

@inthehands @mekkaokereke I never thought it from the DEI perspective, but "weed out" intro courses always felt like excuses for horrible teaching for me

@lesley @mekkaokereke
That’s 100% true, and on top of that, they’re excuses for discrimination. Real twofer there.

@lesley @inthehands @mekkaokereke ARE there "weed out" intro courses though? It's been a long time since my undergrad days, but weed stuff was usually late 2nd year, when there were gateways to move to adjacent disciplines.

@jonathanpeterson @lesley @mekkaokereke
Yes, weed-out courses certainly exist at many places, sometimes by accident, sometimes very much on purpose. There’s also an active and thriving movement against them. This is an area of active contention and progress in the teaching world for, oh, the last couple of decades at least.

@lesley @inthehands @mekkaokereke

Even as a cishet white guy, the weed-out college computer science classes mostly hit the kids who went to high schools without computer classes.

My high school didn't offer computing. I worked my tail off in college, aced my math classes on my own. But my first two CS classes, I passed by cheating.

@lesley @inthehands @mekkaokereke

Heck yeah to this. Even when the material is hard, there’s no excuse for making it even harder.