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hot take: vim with arrows is actually great and hjkl is unnecessary cognitive overhead

@zeux There are people who use hjkl instead of arrows??

@wolfpld @zeux you can also use the mouse, and it’s definitely convenient to have the option, but the whole point of modal editors for me is to move the hands as little as possible.

I have to stop and think which key is which movement, but it’s just muscle memory at this point.
The same way I don’t actively remember how to play specific notes on a instrument, or translate words one by one when speaking another language.

@javier_salcedo @zeux Vim keybindings have never really clicked for me, as I have to do text entry all over in places that are not Vim (a competent IDE, a program launcher, the terminal, any website really, a word processor, etc, etc). I see no point in constantly switching between the two navigation modes.

Go to next word? I have ctrl+right arrow for that, and it works everywhere.

Aha, but you can do 10w! Yeah, I'm not counting how many words are there. Must be cool for nerds though, I guess.

@javier_salcedo @zeux Moving the hand to arrows is not really that much different from hitting the escape.

Unless you have the Vim foot pedal. github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch

For Emacs a more complex control scheme is needed, but you can map ctrl, shift, alt to three foot pedals. github.com/foxweb/vim-pedal

While you're dismantling your car, you may also find an use for the gear shifter. github.com/tenderlove/initial-

For more advanced use cases church organs may be needed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ped

@wolfpld @javier_salcedo Vim users often remap Esc to something like Caps Lock fwiw. (I don't, I use Caps Lock to switch input layouts instead, but I also use arrow keys so ehh)

Javier Salcedo

@zeux @wolfpld is guess it’s personal taste.

I’m noticeably faster at *editing* text.
For just moving around word by word it’s not that much different, but it starts getting faster when you use relative line numbers and the f and t motions.
And plugins like easymotion make you move way faster.

*A lot* of programs and IDEs have vim motions.
I don’t really use Vim itself that much. I mostly work with 10x and VS.

Also, I do have Caps Lock remapped to Escape 😆