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@lritter lol :D

@floooh we had this in scopes since 2016. but i'm not even mad, because i'm already ten steps ahead.

once i had written the whole thing and was able to use the same functions for both targets, it became clear during work that refactoring was still hard, because building pipelines is too convoluted in imperative languages, and not well defined in functional ones.

well guess what, after chewing on this for two years i have a path to glory now. and nobody's gonna steal it because it is too alien.

@lritter @floooh man we had this in glsl ages before scopes

@aeva @floooh dicaprio, his eyes squinting

@lritter @aeva @floooh oh God. Darmok is just the natural evolution of internet memes, isn't it.
Darth Vader, screaming with his fists up.

@jon_valdes @aeva @floooh jack nicholson, nodding with encouragement

@lritter @jon_valdes @floooh phpbb, their bananas dancing

@andrewrk @floooh i'm just goading y'all. secretly i hope someone's going "unstealable, you say? too alien huh? WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT..."

but seriously, that C syntax. do you LIKE having carpal tunnel syndrome? ;)

@lritter @andrewrk @floooh Yes, Zig should hire more diversity in it's team. Now it's just about performance and doing the math right. Look how smart we are, we understand this syntax! You know men.

https://www.youtube.com/live/-Br66SUjsdQ?feature=shared&t=12104 via @Felienne

@avlap2 @andrewrk admitted, C syntax does make it possible to reuse the C preprocessor. it's a big plus.

@lritter @andrewrk I started with Zig, to be honest, the syntax starts to make sense, in general I think I love the language.

@floooh @andrewrk you may be very correct. guido van rossum, the creator of python, lived in the netherlands, where {} can also only be produced by an awkward key combination.

@lritter @andrewrk also all the Wirth languages (BEGIN/END)

@floooh @andrewrk however, lisp is also american.

@lritter @floooh @andrewrk
probably curly braces weren't invented yet when LISP was first created

@Doomed_Daniel @floooh @andrewrk lisp and C are almost the same age

@lritter @floooh @andrewrk
C is from 1972, lisp from 1958

@Doomed_Daniel @floooh @andrewrk 14 years. a blip in the history of space!

@lritter @floooh @andrewrk
but a lot of time in the history of computing, especially in the early history of computing

@Doomed_Daniel @floooh @andrewrk i already knew it was probably wrong when i said it but i was too lazy to check. all i had in the back of my mind was "the 60's" which is only correct when you take the average of both ;)

@lritter @floooh @andrewrk
yeah.. to be fair, I initially meant it as a joke, but thinking more about it, it's probably correct (I mean, not in the "invented {}" sense, but in the "keyboards didn't have those keys" sense).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCPL claims that it was the first "brace programming language", but apparently it usually used "$(" and "$)" instead of { and } because of the "limited keyboards of the day".
And C still had trigraphs for such limited keyboards until C23 (or C++17)

@Doomed_Daniel @floooh @andrewrk ah, $( and $), of course, that's how its successor got so popular in finance

@lritter @floooh @andrewrk
finance must love shell scripts

@Doomed_Daniel @floooh @andrewrk they probably do! i just added $ as variable prefix to NOIR syntax rules so the cash should roll in shortly

@lritter @floooh @andrewrk
bad timing, who still wants dollars now that trump is elected :-p

@Doomed_Daniel @floooh @andrewrk you know what, you've got me convinced

@mbr @floooh @andrewrk i coded in classical s-expressions for about a year before i started working on a variant where indentation could replace round brackets.

suddenly it just looked like shell scripts.